Getting rid of the book studies? After all these child sex abuse cases, and pedophiles attending them in people's homes, I think it was a legal move to keep the Society from having to battle court cases regarding abuse done in people's homes.
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Deceptive comments or lies that you have heard from platform or brothers & sisters?
by Farmer Jim1 inok, so what are the most deceptive comments that you have heard from your experience in congregations?.
my top three are;.
1) service overseer during the ’ how did we do?’ annual talk, twisted the figures to such an extent that it looked like the congregations ministry was in tip-top shape.
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Request for information on Henderson Sex Abuse case in Redbluff CA
by cha ching inwe are seeking additional details regarding the child sex abuse case in redbluff, ca, around 2005-2007.. http://watchtowerdocuments.org/documents/secrets_commentary_version_2.pdf.
see pages 20-22. we are looking for first hand knowledge of these events.
our purpose is to make a compelling argument to officials with the authority to make a difference.. please pm me.. many thanks, cha ching.
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cha ching
We are seeking additional details regarding the child sex abuse case in Redbluff, CA, around 2005-2007.
http://watchtowerdocuments.org/documents/Secrets_Commentary_Version_2.pdf
see pages 20-22. We are looking for first hand knowledge of these events. Our purpose is to make a compelling argument to officials with the authority to make a difference.
Please pm me.
many thanks, cha ching
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new light! no one is completely shunned. normal family relations continue
by Kevin McFree inhttps://youtu.be/a2yc79cmolu.
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cha ching
Kevin McFree! I loved it!!!!!!! I think the WT lawyer lying again and again, with the reality check in between was a great idea! Keep them coming, thanks!
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750 000$ for KH that will be never constructed ?
by keinlezard ini watch a video on youtube .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkmvl9yfva4.
at 14:00 they tell that wt take 750 000 $ too a crongregation ... it's so amazing .
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cha ching
I am surprised that more JWs don't "get it" about the 'money laundering' (for sake of a better way to describe it).
I am so grateful that so many ex-JWs have done their part in bringing these things to light, and each of them have their audiences that they reach.
What would we do without any of them?
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Reveal Article, Nov. 16, 2017: Jehovah’s Witnesses’ tab for child sex abuse secrecy: $2M and counting
by AndersonsInfo inhttps://www.revealnews.org/blog/jehovahs-witnesses-tab-for-child-sex-abuse-secrecy-2m-and-counting/.
jehovah's witnesses' tab for child sex abuse secrecy $2m and counting.
by trey bundy / november 16, 2017. .
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cha ching
These articles are helping the public, ex witnesses, and has the potential to wake up active witnesses.
Thank you Reveal News and Trey Bundy
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Long Beach School Teacher - you can guess the rest
by Dagney ini'm speechless.
i know this guy.
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-buena-park-arrest-20160630-snap-story.html.
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cha ching
"Houston, we have a problem!"
It is a "Public Safety Issue", institutions behave as badly as the law allows.
Angus Stewart hit the nail on the head when he summed up his findings on his review of all those organizations.
Basically: "Well, churches, orgs have tried this 'clergy penitent privilege/ repent, tell the priest, turn around stuff' for years, looks like it doesn't work. More children get hurt. We need to do something different"
Report it to the police. Then you can do your 2 witness whatever B.S. Protect the kids.
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'If you reason something out; you will be influenced to make the proper decision'
by UnshackleTheChains intake a look at watchtowers reasoning in the first video from 46 minutes to 56 minutes regarding the 2 witness rule.
the scripture the watchtower representative refers to is perfectly fine in relation to situations within context.. but how can the 2 witness rule be applied to a sexual assault or child abuse allegation when only the victim and the perpetrator were present when the crime took place?
how can the 2 witness rule be applied if the perpetrator denies the allegation?..
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cha ching
I remember that article WIFI, the WT is always going back and forth in their strategies.... like a snake.
In the recent court case of Padron vs. WT, in San Diego, the judges called it estoppel:
the principle that precludes a person from asserting something contrary to what is implied by a previous action or statement of that person or by a previous pertinent judicial determination.
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Jwsurvey and Trey Bundy
by DATA-DOG ingood evening, or morning, whatever the case may be.. just a couple of points about the jw monthly broadcast, and the "two witness" rule.
i'm tired, so i'm going to be brief.. 1) i had a nice conversation with trey bundy about the flaws in the wt's "logic" concerning their pet scripture in deuteronomy.
in short, their rnwt ( the most accurate translation of all time, because the fds were involved...) says that no one person can be convicted on the testimony of one witness.
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cha ching
Good job DD!
I agree, I think the WT just tries to 'distract' with all of these "we stand for the scriptures' tactics. (red herring)
What are they realllllly doing?
Well, when you listen to Geoffrey Jackson, during the ARC investigation, he answers the judge's question of "IF you MADE us report it to you, IF it WAS a law, we of COURSE would report child abuse IF it was MANDATORY." (basically)
Why? Because you are right DD, they don't need to 'convict' anyone on one witness. They CAN investigate with only one witness...
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There is NO scripture in the Bible that says "you cannot report it to the police!" In principle, Rom 13:1, 2 says "Let every soul be in subjection to the superior authorities, for there is no authority except by God; the existing authorities stand placed in their relative positions by God. 2 Therefore he who opposes the authority has taken a stand against the arrangement of God" This would be 'perfect cover' for their 'new light' .
Personally, I think the lawyers for WT & the GB would looooooovvve a way out, it if it was "mandatory to report". It might seem like they don't love it, but it is a lot like blood transfusions.
Back in the day, Children's Hospital in Oakland had a standing arrangement with the judges, they could order a transfusion for a minor. in a flash, parents could do nothing about it.. After a while, witness parents could protest the state's involvement, but feel relieved that their child's live was saved.
The same thing might happen if state "mandatory reporting" laws were changed to require clergy to be mandated reporters. Stay tuned!......
The GB do not want to be sued, or said that "they are going against the scriptures." If they changed the "two witness rule" they would be so sued by so many people. Parents: "IF you would have let me investigate, if you would have told the police all these OTHER kids would not have been hurt!" Listen to the abuse victims as to why they are coming forward. A big part of the reason is to protect other kids.
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Reveal News Article: Jehovah’s Witnesses double down on Scripture used to ignore abuse by Trey Bundy
by AndersonsInfo inhttps://www.revealnews.org/blog/jehovahs-witnesses-double-down-on-scripture-used-to-ignore-abuse/.
jehovah’s witnesses double down on scripture used to ignore abuse.
by trey bundy / november 9, 2017. gary breaux, a senior jehovah's witness official, speaks on the religion’s official internet video channel.
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cha ching
Want to know how "the world" reacts to this story???
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Another sex abuser
by Honeybucket ini'm tyoing this up on my phone, so forgive me if i don't give all i do or spell anything correctly.
today i saw in the local newspaper in skagit valley washington a local man was sentenced to prison for child pornography.
at firat i wasn't i terested in the article until i saw the defendants name.
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cha ching
Thank you for the insight Tiki, and so sorry you had to live through that!